Challenging Digital Evidence Obtained Through Roundup and Torrential Downpour

Materials provided from the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers referring to RoundUp and Torrential Downpour.

Original Sources

Original source page: https://www.nacdl.org/Content/Webinar-Challenging-Digital-Evidence-Obtained-thro

The source above contains links to the following:

  1. YouTube Webinar Video - Slightly over an hour long video discussion about the participants knowledge of TD.
  2. Materials from Mohammad Hamoudi - Example materials received as part of other cases detailing older government softwares.
  3. Materials from Robert Herz and Jeff Fischbach - 488 pages of court documents detailing proceedings for U.S. v. Schwier and referenced cases.

While there is a table of contents within the large PDF provided above, below is a table for reference containing dates of filings:

pages date title
1-9 2019-11-26 Partial Transcript of Hearing on Motions for Reconsideration (1:36 p.m. - 1:47 p.m)
10-31 2019-09-12 C-3 Motion to Compel Discovery and Production of Evidence: Torrential Downpour Software
32-36 2019-12-03 Emails Between Prosecutor and Defense (2019-12-03 to 2019-12-06)
37-38 2020-02-03 Order Granting Motion to Dismiss Counts 1 and 2 and Regulate Produced Discovery
39-43 2019-11-25 Motion for Partial Reconsideration of the Court's Order at DOC. 254 RE: Additional Terms for Protective Order
44-47 2019-11-25 Defense Modified \[Proposed\] Order Granting Motion for Additional Terms for Protective Order (Originally filed 2019-11-15)
48-60 2020-01-06 Response in Opposition to Government Consolidated Filing At DOC. 288
61-76 2020-01-06 Emails between defense and prosecutor range 2019-11-19 to 2019-12-19
77-79 2019-09-27 Affidavit of Robert Erdely
80-82 2019-09-27 Robert William Erdely Curriculum Vitae
83-87 2020-01-06 Declaration of Jeffrey M. Fischbach - Reponse to Dkt. 288
88-98 2019-09-12 Declaration of Jeffrey M. Fischbach
99-108 2019-11-25 Declaration of Jeffrey M. Fischbach In Support of Defense Motion for Reconsideration
109-113 2020-01-06 Supplemental Declaration of Jeffrey M. Fischbach Supplementing DOC. 296
114-130 2020-05-01 U.S. v. Gonzales - Defendant's Motion to Compel Additional Discovery and Notice of Filing of Torrential Downpour Version 1.33 Testing and Analysis
131-146 2019-02-19 U.S. v. Gonzales - Court Order Compelled Discovery Torrential Downpour granted in part and denied in part
147-163 2019-08-27 U.S. v. Gonzales - Court Order Motion to Compel Compliance with Court's February 19, 2019 order (Doc. 54) is granted in part and denied in part
164-172 2019-11-15 Motion for Additional Terms for Protective Order and Notice of Compliance with Supplemental Order (Dkt. 243)
173-176 2020-01-23 Motion to Dismiss Counts 1 and 2 and Regulate Produced Discovery
177-181 2019-11-22 Motion for Partial Reconsideration Regarding Order (Dkt. 254) and for Telephonic Participation of Witness at Status Hearing
182-185 2019-11-15 \[Proposed\] Order Granting Motion for Additional Terms for Protective Order
186-200 2019-10-11 Validation Report of Torrential Downpour provided by Robert Erdely
201-204 2020-01-14 Amended Protective Order - Court's Order re Motions for Reconsideration
205-207 2019-11-19 Order for Government to Reply to Defense's Response in Opposition at Docket 248 and Compelling Production of Validation Testing Records
208 2020-02-03 Judgment of Partial Discharge Counts 1 and 2
209-222 2019-10-24 Order Regarding C-3 Motion to Compel Discovery and Production of Evidence: Torrential Downpour Software
223-241 2020-01-14 Order RE Motions for Reconsideration DOC. 254
242-249 2019-11-08 Supplemental Order Regarding C-3 Motion to Compel Discovery and Production of Evidence: Torrential Downpour Software
250-258 2019-11-26 Supplemental Declaration of Jeffrey M. Fischbach in Support of Defendant's Motion for Partial Reconsideration at DOC. 256
259-266 2019-10-15 Supplement to C-3 Motion to Compel Discovery and Production of Evidence: Torrential Downpour Software
267-356 2011-08-24 State of Arizona vs. Robert Dean Moran - Transcript of Proceedings - Testimony of Robert Erdely
357-488 2019-08-14 U.S. vs. Thomas J. Owens - Transcript of Proceedings - Testimony of Robert Erdely and Peyton Engel (Defense Expert)

Cleaned and Separated Versions

The versions below contain the same information, but have been separated for ease. Some sections which could not be searched have an added layer of text which is searchable now (via OCR). So, all sections should be searchable now.

U.S. v. Schwier Only - Full

This has the outside case references removed and should be chronological. Same as the “separated” documents below, just joined together.

U.S. v. Schwier Separated

Referenced Cases

These are references throughout U.S. v. Schwier and were included in the original documents.